The Designer Resilience Podcast → Episode 5 (61 min.)

All professionals were amateurs once with Bas Flipsen and Stefan Persaud

On the uncomfortable truth that failing might be the most productive way to learn and how to get used to it
Bas Flipsen is an Associate Professor at TU Delft’s Industrial Design Engineering, researching repair and circular product design. He combines aerospace engineering with design education, championing productive failure and maker education over his 25+ years at IDE.
Stefan Persaud is an educational researcher at IDE specializing in team dynamics, recognized as Lecturer of the Year in 2021. With 20 years of teaching experience, he focuses on the human side of engineering and inclusive collaboration in design teams.
What happens when failure becomes the teacher? In this episode, Vim talks to Bas Flipsen and Stefan Persaud about productive failure – an approach where you struggle first, learn second, and somehow end up understanding more deeply than before. How do you teach students to become comfortable with not knowing? Why is struggling essential to learning?

What happens when failure becomes the teacher? In this episode, Vim talks to Bas Flipsen and Stefan Persaud about productive failure – an approach where you struggle first, learn second, and somehow end up understanding more deeply than before. How do you teach students to become comfortable with not knowing? Why is struggling essential to learning? From aerospace’s “first time right” culture to design’s messy iterations, Bas and Stefan challenge how we think about mistakes, learning, and becoming comfortable with not knowing. They share their decade-long journey transforming design education at TU Delft, the surprising power of reflection dice, and why making “shitty art” might be the most important thing you do today. This conversation explores trust, team dynamics, and the radical idea that all professionals were amateurs once – and they all failed along the way.

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